12/08/1997 Special Meeting292.
MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF DES PLAINES,
ILLINOIS, HELD IN THE ELEANOR ROHRBACH
MEMORIAL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, DES PLAINES
CIVIC CENTER, MONDAY, DECEMBER 8, 1997
CALL TO ORDER: The Special Meeting of the City Council of the City of
Des Plaines was called to order by Mayor Paul Jung at
7:00 p.m. in the Eleanor Rohrbach Memorial Council
Chambers, Des Plaines Civic Center on Monday, December
8, 1997.
ROLL CALL: Roll call indicated the following aldermen present:
Beauvais, Christiansen, Elstner, Higgason, Sarlo, Smith,
Arredia. Alderman Brookman was absent. Alderman
Brookman arrived at 7:10 p.m.
Also present were City Manager Douthwaite, Director of Economic
Development Klaus, Director of Finance & Administrative Services Egeberg,
Police Chief Sturlini, Director of Community Development D'Onofrio, and
Director of Human Resources & Services Merriman.
UPDATE/ City Manager Douthwaite stated that six (6) weeks ago the
DOWNTOWN City Council unanimously voted to endorse the concept of
REDEVELOP.: including the Library in the downtown redevelopment area,
and instructed the Staff to "fine tune" some of the
details of that concept. Four (4) specific questions
were addressed in this process:
1. Is the concept of a Library a feasible one with
respect to architectural mass and layout?
Answer: YES
2. Is the concept of a retrofit of the Des Plaines Mall
to a parking structure a feasible one; will it work
structurally and will it work from a layout perspective?
Answer: YES
3. Are the cost estimates that were investigated six (6)
weeks ago toward the cost of the Library feasible?
Answer: YES, in fact they could come down by a $1
million.
4. Are the potential financing costs in the "ballpark ?"
Answer: YES, in fact, at least $100,000 can be saved
over the financial costs estimated in late October.
City Manager Douthwaite introduced Mr. Stephen B.
Friedman, President - S. B. Friedman & Company, City's
consultant on this project; and Ronald B. Grais, an
attorney with Schwartz, Cooper, Greenberger & Krauss
Chartered, City's outside legal counsel who helped
negotiate the first redevelopment agreement with LR
Development.
Mr. Friedman reviewed his letter of December 3, 1997 and
accompanying documents in which he outlined the steps
taken in conducting a preliminary review of the concept
of incorporating a new 80,000 sq. ft. library in the
Plaines Town Center development on the six (6) acre site.
Mr. Friedman stated that the first thing they were asked
to do is look at the Library budget for this project.
Overall, the cost estimates which led to a working budget
number of $15 million appear to be within a reasonable
range for building an 80,000 sq. ft. Library.
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LIBRARY Secondly, they were asked to look at the annual cost of
(Cont'd.) financing or installment purchase. The City will own
this Library. There is a number of different ways to
finance it, one being like a home mortgage. The City's
financial advisor, Speer Financial, Inc., reviewed the
financial options and through both potentially lower
costs and public financing techniques, the estimated
annual debt service of $1,271,000 is likely to be reduced
by $100,000 a year or more. This will depend on the
final costs and financial market conditions at the time
of financing.
Thirdly, the re -use of the Des Plaines Mall for a parking
structure was reviewed; Desman Associates, one of the
leading designers of parking garages, performed a
preliminary review of the layout issues related to re -use
of the Des Plaines Mall as a parking structure and
generally confirmed this feasibility with an estimated
466 parking spaces. The developer's estimate of
$5,350,000 or $25 to $26 per sq. ft. appears to be a
comfortable budget for the type of renovation required.
Desman Associates recommends that a sinking fund be
funded at $55 per space per year for a renovated deck.
For 466 spaces, this is approximately $26,000 per year;
based on a 10% capitalization rate, $260,000 would be
required to fund this reserve.
Mr. Friedman stated that if the City Council approves the
project as presented, the City would become the major
anchor tenant and construction could begin next June or
July.
Mr. Friedman stated for the project to proceed, the City
Council must take several steps that have associated
costs:
Prepare Library Concept Plan and
Adjustments to Site Plan - $ 85,000
Prepare Financial Analysis, Development
Consulting & Coordination- $ 50,000
Retain Legal Counsel -- Redevelopment
Agreements - $ 40,000
Reimbursable Expense Allowance
- $ 5,000
TOTAL $180,000
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Mr. Friedman stated that during this process his firm and
that of Mr. Grais would act as representatives of the
City, including the Library, in coordinating and
directing the work of a team that will carry out the
necessary reviews and analysis. Lohan Associates,
Architects and Planners, would be responsible for the
site plan. Desman Associates, Parking Consultants and
Designers, would be responsible for the more detailed
evaluation of issues related to the parking re -use of the
Des Plaines Mall as it relates to the development as a
whole.
Mr. Friedman suggested that a 60 -day period be undertaken
to do this analysis, the next level of design, and
renegotiate the redevelopment agreement and bring that
back for final approval by the City Council. The cost
of $180,000 is not in addition to the cost of the
project, but part of the total cost.
DISCUSSION: A general discussion followed regarding soft costs; the
difference between LR's Library costs and that of
Construction Cost Systems, Inc.'s estimated Library
costs; along with the sinking fund for the renovated deck
maintenance in the future.
SUSPEND THE
RULES:
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DISCUSSION Alderman Beauvais asked if the City could go out for
(Cont'd.) bonds without increases in any taxes. City Manager
Douthwaite said no, there would be a yearly property tax
increase of approximately $15 to $20 for the average
homeowner.
Alderman Higgason asked if a traffic study had been done.
Mr. Friedman stated that LR Development did a traffic
study and there is no problem with the traffic load on
the surrounding streets; the traffic flow on the site
itself needs to be looked at.
Alderman Smith asked if any of the construction costs
could be paid out of TIF funds. Mr. Friedman and Mr.
Douthwaite both said no, these costs would not be
eligible for TIF funds.
Alderman Brookman asked what the status was of the SPARKS
Program. Mr. Douthwaite stated that things are no
further along than when the concept approval was given
six (6) weeks ago; nothing has been signed; the City will
fund them for two (2) years and then School District #62
will assume the cost. Alderman Brookman asked if the
City knows whether the School Board will go along with
this; she is concerned about what would happen after two
(2) years.
Alderman Christiansen also expressed his concern about
the SPARKS Program; he would rather help the School
District build something somewhere else.
Mr. Bruce Abrams, President of LR Development, gave a
brief history of their involvement with this project over
the past two (2) years.
Moved by Beauvais, seconded by Higgason, to suspend the
rules to permit public input on this matter. Motion
declared carried.
RECESS: Moved by Arredia, seconded by Higgason, to call for a
five (5) minutes recess. Motion declared carried.
The City Council recessed at 9:09 p.m.
The City Council reconvened at 9:25 p.m.
DISCUSSION: Mr. Don Franks, 2497 Parkwood Lane, addressed the City
Council congratulating them on paying attention;
listening to the pros and cons, but there are more cons
than pros in this project; we can have a bigger and
better library where it is at now if we build over the
Library parking lot; there will be a parking problem if
we move the Library downtown.
Mr. Bill Walter, 820 Graceland Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that the Library belongs to all the
people of Des Plaines; do not build or move the Library
without the permission of the people.
Ms. Lynne Lohr, 1312 Prairie Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that the voters have voted twice on the
Library and they are very upset that they were not heard;
it is not moral to change what citizens have voted for;
the City should ask our permission before they move a
Library downtown.
Mr. Robert Smith, 540 S. Fifth Avenue, addressed the City
Council in opposition to the proposed move of the
Library; we have a very nice Library where it is now.
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DISCUSSION Mr. Wayne Serbin, 835 Pearson Street, addressed the City
(Cont'd.) Council stating that the City should have an alternate
plan for this site; hold off with this decision; go slow;
do not rush into this.
Mr. John Yaccino, 1779 Cora Street, addressed the City
Council stating his opposition to this plan; the Library
does not maintain the building they have now; bring a
hotel downtown.
Mr. Harry Eisfeldt, 641 S. Sixth Avenue, addressed the
City Council stating that the City gives incentives to
big firms, they should also give them to small retail
businesses; City should buy the Dodge - Plymouth property,
build a parking lot for the bank employees and shuttle
them back and forth; if you put a big building downtown,
you're going to have problems, i.e. flooding.
Ms. Tammy Gasper, 1619 Hills Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that she thinks we need a better Library
but the present site is just fine; downtown is congested
enough, we don't need more traffic; a day care center
should be away from downtown.
Ms. Sue Strand, 1375 Wicke Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating her concern about the safety of children;
having a day care center downtown is not a safe idea; we
should build onto the present Library.
Ms. Sherry Melze, 2101 Westview Drive, addressed the City
Council stating that the City should go after a hotel -
conference center for this site; she would be happy to
contact various hotels and asked some aldermen to go with
her. Alderman Brookman stated that she would. Mr. Bruce
Abrams stated that his firm has worked very hard to find
a hotel but none have been interested; he would be
willing to work with her and even pay her a "finder's
fee" if she is successful.
Mr. Gunther Gorth, 154 Cornell Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that if the City can't find an anchor,
put in residential and then the retailers will come.
Mr. John Ciborowski, 1026 Alfini Drive, addressed the
City Council stating that this is a good plan for Des
Plaines; it will make the downtown beautiful; he hopes
the City Council will approve this plan; if it is
rejected, Des Plaines will be "dead in the water."
Mr. Vince Powers, 862 Webster Lane, addressed the City
Council stating the Des Plaines is at the crossroads of
its future; we must move forward; now is the time for
compromise; move the Library downtown.
Mr. Dick Reddington, 546 S. Fifth Avenue, addressed the
City Council stating that we have a perfectly good
Library now; he is not for spending $15 to $20 a year to
put a Library downtown.
Mr. Gene Fregetto, 800 Laurel Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that he is a heavy user of the Library;
he loves the Library and thinks it is in a great location
now, but we could have better Library services and be
more efficient; do not give them more space until they
can improve their services.
Mr. Jim Ulett, 445 Rose Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that the Council has a chance to move
this City ahead; this plan should be approved.
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DISCUSSION Mr. Jim Blue, 1771 Sherwood Road, addressed the City
(Cont'd.) Council asking that if the aldermen believed this
proposal has merit and is worthy of further study with
respect to issues like noise, parking, and traffic, then
he thinks they should move it forward; people would be
grateful.
Mrs. Elisabeth Trembath, 283 Good Court, addressed the
City Council asking them to listen to the experts who say
the Library should be downtown; please make the right
decision and vote for this downtown redevelopment plan.
Mr. Dick Sayad, 290 Shannon Court, addressed the City
Council stating that he has voted twice against any
changes to the Library and he still feels the same way;
it is not reasonable to move downtown; nothing that has
been said tonight has changed his mind; we have a fine
Library right where it is.
Mrs. Cathy Juell, 292 N. Wolf Road, addressed the City
Council stating that she has been waiting a long time for
something great to happen to Des Plaines; moving the
Library downtown will give us a great sense of community;
please vote for the downtown redevelopment plan.
Mr. Ralph Johnson, 190 Cornell Avenue, addressed the City
Council stating that there is no better resource for
students once they leave school than to have a good
Library; please move forward and make the tough decision.
Mrs. Sue D'Hondt, 359 Alles Street, addressed the City
Council stating that we need to look into the future for
our community; if we are going to maintain the value of
our property, we have to maintain a good community; I
hope you move the Library downtown and redevelop the
area; I hope you make the right decision.
Mr. Dennis Ulm, 835 E. Grant Drive, addressed the City
Council stating his concerns about noise, smells, and
fire hazards from the first floor; we should have a
separate building for the Library; parking could be
problem at that site.
Mr. Paul Saletnik, 320 Oxford Road, addressed the City
Council urging the aldermen to live up to their
responsibilities, listen to the professionals and do the
right thing; make the right decision and move the
Library.
Mr. Barry Collins, a member of the Des Plaines Economic
Commission, addressed the City Council stating that the
City should investigate all the possibilities presented
by the people tonight and then move forward.
Mr. John Burke, President of the Des Plaines Library
Board, addressed the City Council to answer some
questions that were raised during the evening: what
percentage of the patrons are children (14 and under)?
Mr. Burke said this is determined two ways: the number
of all reference questions asked - 37% are by children;
and the amount of circulation of all materials use - 28%
by children.
Mr. Burke stated that of the 1,000 or so who use the
Library every day, between 280 and 370 are children.
Mr. Burke stated that another question asked was that of
inclusion of videos in the Library. He said that videos
account for 3.7% of our collection of materials and books
account for 83% of the collection; the remaining
materials are periodicals, art work and things like that.
Videos take up only 5% of the floor space but account for
22% of their circulation.
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DISCUSSION Mr. Burke stated that the Library is committed to
(Cont'd.) literacy and education.
APPROVED BY ME THIS
DAY ' GWl , 1998
Paul W. f ng MAYOR
Mr. Ronald Moore, 1480 Jefferson Street, addressed the
City Council stating that he moved to Des Plaines in
August because of the redevelopment plan that was
presented at a meeting he attended in March; he goes by
the Library several times every day and the lot is never
full; if they need more space, build a branch somewhere
else; the City should get another developer; the Library
is good where it is.
Alderman Sarlo asked if the money requested for further
study was not forthcoming what would be the result. Mr.
Abrams said it was his personal opinion that if the
Library did not more forward, the downtown redevelopment
would not happen. Mr. Abrams stated that if the Library
is not the anchor, most retailers who have already been
contacted will be unlikely to change their minds. Mr.
Sarlo said that in that case if the Council votes for the
funds, it is voting for the Library, "no ifs and /or
buts."
Moved by Elstner, seconded by Higgason, to authorize
Steven Friedman of S.B. Friedman & Company, 221 N.
LaSalle Street, Suite 1007, Chicago, IL 60601, and Ron
Grais with Schwartz, Cooper, Greenberger & Krauss
Chartered, to act as the City's agents to enter into
appropriate sub - consultant agreements for the following
services with associated costs not -to- exceed $180,000 /TIF
Funds:
Library Concept Plan and
Adjustments to Site Plan - $ 85,000
Financial Analysis, Development
Consulting & Coordination- $ 50,000
Legal Counsel - Redevelopment
Agreements - $ 40,000
Reimbursable Expense Allowance - $ 5,000
Upon roll call, the vote was:
AYES: 5- Beauvais, Elstner, Higgason, Smith, Jung
NAYS: 4- Christiansen, Brookman, Sarlo, Arredia
ABSENT: 0 -None
Motion declared carried.
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ADJOURNMENT: Moved by Smith, seconded by Christiansen, that the
Special Meeting of the City Council adjourn. Motion
declared carried. Meeting adjourned at 11.51 p.m.
Donna McAllister, CMC /AAE - CITY CLERK